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	<description>Answers to this and other awkward questions about climate change</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Qu: Are energy-saving bulbs the brightest idea? by Bethan</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/08/01/qu-are-energy-saving-bulbs-the-brightest-idea/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Bethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Neil, 

Thanks for your comment. It goes to show how important it is for large  businesses to prioritise environmental policy, especially when it comes to being transparent in 'greening' their supply chain. I've heard a similar story to the 'Chinese Ikea lightbulbs'; this time the business is Sky, who, in their new campaign to be CarbonNeutral, have sparked a race for optimum energy efficiency between manufacturers of digi boxes. 

Suppliers will go the extra mile to improve their environmental credentials when winning business is at stake; a realistic and slightly depressing fact that should be a cue for to the government and consumers alike to put pressure on market leaders. 

Bethan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neil, </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. It goes to show how important it is for large  businesses to prioritise environmental policy, especially when it comes to being transparent in &#8216;greening&#8217; their supply chain. I&#8217;ve heard a similar story to the &#8216;Chinese Ikea lightbulbs&#8217;; this time the business is Sky, who, in their new campaign to be CarbonNeutral, have sparked a race for optimum energy efficiency between manufacturers of digi boxes. </p>
<p>Suppliers will go the extra mile to improve their environmental credentials when winning business is at stake; a realistic and slightly depressing fact that should be a cue for to the government and consumers alike to put pressure on market leaders. </p>
<p>Bethan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question: Highs and lows of Carbon Trading&#8230; by Ebay hot items</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/05/30/question-highs-and-lows-of-carbon-trading/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Ebay hot items</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting site, i have added it to my favourites. Greetings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting site, i have added it to my favourites. Greetings</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question: are patio heaters evil? by Wainenry</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/06/26/question-are-patio-heaters-evil/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Wainenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Qu: Are energy-saving bulbs the brightest idea? by Neil</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/08/01/qu-are-energy-saving-bulbs-the-brightest-idea/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can try to save energy by using low-energy light bulbs. Presently
these are based on a technology that uses mercury. Traditional forecasting or planning would attempt to establish whether the energy savings are more substantial than the disadvantage of dispersing more mercury. The real answer is that it is usually not possible to answer these kinds of questions with any degree of certainty.
Ikea used The Natural Step planning methodology in developing their low-energy bulbs. As a result, they found a supplier in China that used a third as much mercury as other suppliers. The other suppliers were duly notified about the reasons for choosing Chinese low-energy bulbs. It is obvious what the effect of this announcement was, not least its virtual guarantee that funding would be put into new research. Tomorrow’s alternatives, heading towards no mercury, are under development.
 the key to the whole thing is the closed technical loop idea of the recycling program put in place by Ikea. Without that it isn't much of a step in the right direction towards sustainability. The systematic increase of mercury in natural systems is a serious problem but by looking to reduce the amount used in production and then eventually substitute it for something else along with a recycling system is a great step over the old bulbs.
thx
Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can try to save energy by using low-energy light bulbs. Presently<br />
these are based on a technology that uses mercury. Traditional forecasting or planning would attempt to establish whether the energy savings are more substantial than the disadvantage of dispersing more mercury. The real answer is that it is usually not possible to answer these kinds of questions with any degree of certainty.<br />
Ikea used The Natural Step planning methodology in developing their low-energy bulbs. As a result, they found a supplier in China that used a third as much mercury as other suppliers. The other suppliers were duly notified about the reasons for choosing Chinese low-energy bulbs. It is obvious what the effect of this announcement was, not least its virtual guarantee that funding would be put into new research. Tomorrow’s alternatives, heading towards no mercury, are under development.<br />
 the key to the whole thing is the closed technical loop idea of the recycling program put in place by Ikea. Without that it isn&#8217;t much of a step in the right direction towards sustainability. The systematic increase of mercury in natural systems is a serious problem but by looking to reduce the amount used in production and then eventually substitute it for something else along with a recycling system is a great step over the old bulbs.<br />
thx<br />
Neil</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question: What About China?!? by Bethan</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/05/27/54/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Bethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Derrick, 

Thanks for your comments. You're right to point out that focusing on other countries contributions to global warming is no reason to ignore our own. So, well done for getting your solar water heater installed. Solar PV panels are pricey but there are grants available and with the cost of energy rising at such a rate your investment will pay off a lot quicker. 

Check out these websites for more information about grants and installation. 

http://www.lowcarbonbuildings.org.uk/home/
http://www.heatmyhome.co.uk/uk-solar-grants.htm
http://www.government-grants.co.uk/solar-water-heating-grants.shtml 

Good luck! 
Bethan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Derrick, </p>
<p>Thanks for your comments. You&#8217;re right to point out that focusing on other countries contributions to global warming is no reason to ignore our own. So, well done for getting your solar water heater installed. Solar PV panels are pricey but there are grants available and with the cost of energy rising at such a rate your investment will pay off a lot quicker. </p>
<p>Check out these websites for more information about grants and installation. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.lowcarbonbuildings.org.uk/home/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lowcarbonbuildings.org.uk/home/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.heatmyhome.co.uk/uk-solar-grants.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.heatmyhome.co.uk/uk-solar-grants.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.government-grants.co.uk/solar-water-heating-grants.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.government-grants.co.uk/solar-water-heating-grants.shtml</a> </p>
<p>Good luck!<br />
Bethan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Qu: What about population increase? by Toby</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/07/04/qu-what-about-population-increase/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan Porritt touches on this issue in his 'Population' piece (http://www.jonathonporritt.com/pages/2008/06/population.html) on his blog, suggesting that population growth is on of THE issues we have to tackle, ahead - perhaps - of HIV/AIDS. Worth a read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Porritt touches on this issue in his &#8216;Population&#8217; piece (http://www.jonathonporritt.com/pages/2008/06/population.html) on his blog, suggesting that population growth is on of THE issues we have to tackle, ahead - perhaps - of HIV/AIDS. Worth a read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question: What About China?!? by Derrick Bloch</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/05/27/54/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick Bloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes life a whole lot easier for oneself if one can point to someone else's smokestacks!!

From my own point of view I try to make my opwn little contribution, and find that frustrating too. We recently installled a solar water heater on our roof. I have been looking into Solar Voltaic panels as well, but for a little guy like me it becomes frighteningly expensive, and takes a serious chunk out of the household budget.

In my opinion governments, both local and federal, should be doing two things: (i) heavily subsidizing the installation of solar energy technology and making it affordable for homeowners and (ii) hammering the message home to kids in school, because they are the ones who change the parents' opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes life a whole lot easier for oneself if one can point to someone else&#8217;s smokestacks!!</p>
<p>From my own point of view I try to make my opwn little contribution, and find that frustrating too. We recently installled a solar water heater on our roof. I have been looking into Solar Voltaic panels as well, but for a little guy like me it becomes frighteningly expensive, and takes a serious chunk out of the household budget.</p>
<p>In my opinion governments, both local and federal, should be doing two things: (i) heavily subsidizing the installation of solar energy technology and making it affordable for homeowners and (ii) hammering the message home to kids in school, because they are the ones who change the parents&#8217; opinions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Organic meat: a climate hazard? by baby</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/05/16/organic-meat-a-climate-hazard/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice website!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice website!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question: Highs and lows of Carbon Trading&#8230; by Bethan</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/05/30/question-highs-and-lows-of-carbon-trading/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Bethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chris...working on the next piece right now...

B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris&#8230;working on the next piece right now&#8230;</p>
<p>B</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question: Highs and lows of Carbon Trading&#8230; by Chris Moran</title>
		<link>http://whataboutchina.co.uk/2008/05/30/question-highs-and-lows-of-carbon-trading/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 11:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice writing style.  Looking forward to reading more from you.

Chris Moran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice writing style.  Looking forward to reading more from you.</p>
<p>Chris Moran</p>
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